Re: Understanding the Wipe module
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:55 am
Can anyone else figure out why I'm seeing such noisy images?
Hi,thewormofautumn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:55 am Can anyone else figure out why I'm seeing such noisy images?
As you can see from my process steps, I choose REDO the Autodev, and I don't make a single change to the data set but when I get into the colour module my image is very noisy.After the second image things clearly went wrong... Did you leave this diagnostic stretch in place? After Wipe , rather REDO the stretch using AutoDev with a reasonable ROI and a slight dose of "Ignore fine Detail". This should give a good stretch with just a bit of background noise which is ok at this point, because it may be handled by Denoise later. Also note that other dynamic tools like Contrast and HDR are available to optimize the stretch locally. Also SuperStructure may help to push background down further.
Understood, this is why the tutorial section of the unofficial manual is designed to provide a "learning by doing" experience - without "reading" (Ok, you need to read 11 bullet points to be fair). This is how it looks for Wipe:But to be honest, I just don't like learning via reading to be honest (unless it's a physical book!). I prefer learning with either "doing" or watching a video. I'm sure the documentation is perfect for those for whom reading is a good way to learn, but I'm more of a video person.0
I'm sad to hear that. Something is going very wrong and I'd love to help you figure out what it is, if and when you are ready.thewormofautumn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:37 am Hi folks
Just wanted to say thanks to those who have tried to help me.
Unfortunately, I'm getting the same results on a fresh set of data on a different target, and I'm frustrated with this software right now, so will be stepping away from it. I had great results in the beginning with defaults but with the same defaults I'm getting so much noise and I can't figure out (even after reading the above) how to control it.
Here is just 3 minutes of Levels stretching in PS (plus a curve adjustment) vs the Autodev>crop>wipe both at defaults and following the above advice in ST.
Thanks again for those who were willing to help, it's much appreciated. Maybe I'll revisit ST in future, but for now, I'm cooked.
Hi again,thewormofautumn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:11 am yeah I get that Ivo. I've tried too many combinations of things to figure out what's going on here. I can post images of every single combination, but I tend to post just "defaults" that I've used. But no tweaking is having any impact. Even your suggestion above (to redo the Autodev) I'd already done, which looks like this once I get to the Colour module
I know this is likely just me not understanding the software. I don't get half of it. I liked the videos you made explaining stuff, that's what got me onto the software in the first place, as I followed along and got good results.
Maybe I'm just used to Photoshop (20 years as a "terrestrial" photographer) and ST is too much of a shift for me to understand.
No disrespect to your software, obviously many are getting great results with it and that's awesome, but I'm not anymore.
I remember the first edit I did with ST (Orion) and was stoked with how that turned out, with mostly just defaults. Carina (my second image) was the same.
Everything since, nope. Not having an ounce of luck.